Reply to “The Goal of Church Discipline: Repentance unto Restoration” #1

Without a doubt, repentance of a sinner is a point for the saints to rejoice at the work of God!

Mike, what real examples of sin can you cite that would qualify for such a disciplinary action?

Let me give a couple of examples – but I am NOT indicating that you should or would include these because I am asking you – rather I provide these examples as a means to illuminate my question.

Deceit: A person that repeatedly fabricates the same story (consistenet story yet known to be a fabrication).

Deceit: A person that tells a lie, then a different falsehood, then a different false witnesss, then a different lie, and so on (not different versions of same lies, but lie about this and lie about that).

Violence: a person that plays FPS (first person shooter) video games.

Violence: a person that plays Paintball.

Violence: a person in the army to protenct the homeland (property and people) by killing the enemy muslims (Luke 3:14 in KJV, “And the soldiers likewise demanded of him, saying, And what shall we do? And he said unto them, Do violence to no man, neither accuse any falsely; and be content with your wages.”)

In both “deceit” examples, the deceitful person persists in sin or practices lawlessness, so it’s not a case of a one time thing. If a liar is building himself up, then others may be feeling put down. There are so many permutations.

In the 3 “violence” examples, all exhibit heart conditions revealed by fruit. That FPS game, no one is really being shot, but it is violent. “The LORD tests the righteous and the wicked, And the one who loves violence His soul hates” (Psalm 11:5).

I am asking you to identify real case situations where you feel the disciplinary action would apply. I perceive that this could get capricious, so I am honestly seeking an answer. Would you just say repeatedly violating the Decalogue? Would you say repeatedly violating what Lord Jesus said “‘YOU SHALL LOVE THE LORD YOUR GOD WITH ALL YOUR HEART, AND WITH ALL YOUR SOUL, AND WITH ALL YOUR MIND.’ This is the great and foremost commandment. The second is like it, ‘YOU SHALL LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOURSELF.’ On these two commandments depend the whole Law and the Prophets.” (Matthew 22:37-40)?

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